{"id":86685,"date":"2024-09-26T05:05:00","date_gmt":"2024-09-26T09:05:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/insideclimatenews.org\/?p=86685"},"modified":"2024-09-27T18:35:44","modified_gmt":"2024-09-27T22:35:44","slug":"activists-disrupt-occidental-petroleum-interview-at-new-york-times-climate-event","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/insideclimatenews.org\/news\/26092024\/activists-disrupt-occidental-petroleum-interview-at-new-york-times-climate-event\/","title":{"rendered":"Activists Disrupt Occidental Petroleum CEO\u2019s Interview at New York Times Climate Event"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>NEW YORK\u2014Vicki Hollub, the CEO of Occidental Petroleum, had barely stepped on stage for her interview at the New York Times\u2019 Climate Forward event when an audience member leapt up into her path.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cYou are not welcome here,\u201d he said. \u201cTricky Vicki, you can\u2019t hide, we charge you with ecocide.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hollub was quickly shepherded off the stage as a dozen other demonstrators with the direct-action organization Climate Defiance wearing suits jumped up to join the chant, and unfurl a banner that read \u201cDON\u2019T TRUST TRICKY VICKI,\u201d and two others that read \u201cLIAR\u201d and \u201cSNAKE OIL.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Some Climate Forward attendees began clapping for the protesters, while others watched in silence or pulled out their phones to record it. There was little audible criticism of the action from the audience, although some attendees voiced annoyance or disappointment at not seeing Hollub speak as they exited and others said they had expected a protest.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-video\"><video controls src=\"https:\/\/cdn.insideclimatenews.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/25211920\/Climate-Defiance-protest.mp4\" playsinline><\/video><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Credit: Jake Bolster\/Inside Climate News<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>The event organizers paused the proceedings and cleared guests from the auditorium as New York Police Department officers arrived, warned the protesters that they were trespassing and prepared to arrest the group. Ten activists were taken into police custody.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Times staff brought guests back into the auditorium about 10 minutes after the demonstrators had been removed, but after five minutes they asked everyone to leave again, announcing that the rest of the program, including Hollub\u2019s interview, would be presented online only. The Climate Forward interview with Michael Regan, administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency, was canceled due to the delay.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cClimate criminals should not be allowed in polite society,\u201d said Climate Defiance\u2019s Michael Greenberg after the event. \u201cIt is outrageous that the New York Times is hosting a fossil fuel CEO at a supposed climate event.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hollub was invited to Climate Forward for an interview with David Gelles, managing editor of the Times\u2019 Climate Forward newsletter, titled \u201cCan an oil company lower its emissions?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThe New York Times Climate Forward is a live journalism event designed to bring together influential newsmakers for rigorous and challenging interviews around climate change and political policy,\u201d wrote a Times spokesperson in an emailed statement. \u201cThis afternoon, a small group briefly disrupted an on-stage session at Climate Forward. The last interview was streamed live, and a recording will be available on our website and events <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@NewYorkTimesEvents\">YouTube<\/a> page.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/insideclimatenews.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/CD_NYTClimateForward_KenSchles-142407sq-1024x1024.jpg\" alt=\"After the disruption, 10 members of the group were taken into custody by the NYPD. Credit: Ken Schles\/Climate Defiance\" class=\"wp-image-86691\" srcset=\"https:\/\/insideclimatenews.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/CD_NYTClimateForward_KenSchles-142407sq-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/insideclimatenews.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/CD_NYTClimateForward_KenSchles-142407sq-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/insideclimatenews.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/CD_NYTClimateForward_KenSchles-142407sq-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/insideclimatenews.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/CD_NYTClimateForward_KenSchles-142407sq-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/insideclimatenews.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/CD_NYTClimateForward_KenSchles-142407sq-64x64.jpg 64w, https:\/\/insideclimatenews.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/CD_NYTClimateForward_KenSchles-142407sq-600x600.jpg 600w, https:\/\/insideclimatenews.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/CD_NYTClimateForward_KenSchles-142407sq.jpg 1267w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">After the disruption, 10 members of the group were taken into custody by the NYPD. Credit: Ken Schles\/Climate Defiance<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>In the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?app=desktop&amp;v=SePQUey7bZk\">recorded<\/a> interview, Hollub responded to the protest.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cHere at Occidental we are working for solutions to the climate change situation that our world faces,\u201d she said. \u201cIt\u2019s the greatest crisis that our world has ever faced and we have to come together to work on solutions for that and so, to me, to have those that are seeking headlines rather than solutions interrupt discussions that need to be had is a sad day for them, and I feel bad that they have nothing better to do with their time.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Later in the interview, Hollub said that as long as companies are \u201coffsetting\u201d emissions, there is no reason to stop producing oil and gas until the resources themselves run out.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A handful of scattered demonstrations disrupted other events at Climate Week NYC, which brings government, business and NGO leaders, along with thousands of others working in climate and related fields, to the city for 600 environmental events and activities. 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Greenberg, Climate Defiance\u2019s founder, also chased down Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau after spotting him on the street and questioned his support of the Keystone XL pipeline and Canada\u2019s recent purchase of the Trans Mountain Pipeline.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Other activist groups disrupted events throughout the week. New York Communities for Change interrupted a speech by New York City Comptroller Brad Lander, who is running for mayor, and called on him to divest the city from private equity funds and asset managers with fossil fuel investments, including Blackrock and KKR. And Planet Over Profit confronted National Climate Advisor Ali Zaidi on Monday, objecting to the Biden administration\u2019s continued approval of oil and gas leases.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Activists have said that they are trying to denormalize continued expansion of fossil fuels by disrupting individuals they see as enabling the industry\u2019s social license to operate. Evan Drukker-Schardl, a Climate Defiance activist who helped organize several of the week\u2019s actions, said that he hoped to call out what he sees as greenwashing at Climate Week and highlight the urgency of the climate crisis.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cClimate Week is great because it brings all the people who really want to get the message about the urgent need to avert the climate crisis to New York City at the same time as the U.N. General Assembly, to elevate this global problem to global prominence,\u201d Drukker-Schardl said. \u201cThe problem is that people who are actively making the problem worse get platformed during climate week.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignwide size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" src=\"https:\/\/insideclimatenews.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/CD_NYTClimateForward_KenSchles-140851-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"Climate Defiance members unfurled banners on stage and chanted &quot;off fossil fuels, Times,&quot; and &quot;Tricky Vicki, you can't hide, we charge you with ecocide.&quot; Credit: Ken Schles\/Climate Defiance\" class=\"wp-image-86688\" srcset=\"https:\/\/insideclimatenews.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/CD_NYTClimateForward_KenSchles-140851-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/insideclimatenews.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/CD_NYTClimateForward_KenSchles-140851-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/insideclimatenews.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/CD_NYTClimateForward_KenSchles-140851-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/insideclimatenews.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/CD_NYTClimateForward_KenSchles-140851-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/insideclimatenews.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/CD_NYTClimateForward_KenSchles-140851-900x600.jpg 900w, https:\/\/insideclimatenews.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/CD_NYTClimateForward_KenSchles-140851-330x220.jpg 330w, https:\/\/insideclimatenews.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/CD_NYTClimateForward_KenSchles-140851.jpg 1900w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Climate Defiance members unfurled banners on stage and chanted &#8220;off fossil fuels, Times,&#8221; and &#8220;Tricky Vicki, you can&#8217;t hide, we charge you with ecocide.&#8221; Credit: Ken Schles\/Climate Defiance<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Occidental Petroleum, known as Oxy, garnered headlines in 2020 when it outlined its \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.oxy.com\/siteassets\/documents\/publications\/oxy-climate-report-2020.pdf\">Pathway to Net Zero<\/a>\u201d strategy. To reach net zero emissions of greenhouse gases, the company projected it would rely heavily on carbon capture projects that use costly and largely unproven technologies many climate activists have said are slowing the implementation of renewable energy. The company also stated it would be \u201cexpanding low-carbon fuel products\u201d to meet its goals.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This year, a <a href=\"https:\/\/carbonmarketwatch.org\/publications\/net-zero-oil-company-climate-action-or-oxymoron\/\">report<\/a> from Carbon Market Watch, a nonprofit tracking corporate and government carbon policies, called these plans \u201cvague and not aligned with the recommendations of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Times\u2019 Climate Forward event featured a series of panelists from global political, corporate, and activism sectors participating with Times journalists in what the company called \u201clive journalism,\u201d with panelists answering real-time questions from Times reporters about climate change tradeoffs, bottlenecks and solutions. Earlier in the day, audience members heard from Zaidi, renowned conservationist Jane Goodall, Bangladesh\u2019s interim leader Muhammad Yunus and Roy Cooper, governor of North Carolina, among others.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Tension in the audience was palpable during Gelles\u2019 interview with Kevin Roberts, president of the Heritage Foundation, about Project 2025. Gelles pressed Roberts for answers about the Heritage Foundation\u2019s plans to curb pollution and keep America\u2019s water and air clean, which Roberts asserted was a goal of the project. 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